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[How female engineers work] You can become a female engineer even if you have no experience!

2018.08.03

This is Kai Fujisawa from public relations.

Are there any female engineers around you? I think it's less compared to male engineers. Out of 15 engineers at our company, only one is female.

When I searched for "female engineer" to find out why there are so few, I found this suggestion.

"There are few female engineers" "Female engineers' worries" "Female engineers' marriage"

When I researched this, I found that there were reasons such as ``it's not suitable for women because they have to work night shifts,'' ``they miss their marriage because they're busy with work,'' and it seems that women have the impression that it's a male-dominated society.

So, are women really not suited to be engineers? No, that shouldn't be the case.

I can do anything! You can be anything! Women can become engineers too! !

To prove this, we asked the only female her journey from inexperienced to professional

Sakina Nakagawa (3rd year with Beyond Co., Ltd. System Solutions Department)

I don't want to show my face, so I'm wearing a Kamen Rider Build mask. (Mr. Nakagawa really likes Kamen Rider.)

I took advantage of it and added a HUGtto Precure mask. (I really like Precure.)

It all started because the people at the company seemed nice.
Synchronization is important
Until inexperienced people get used to it
For me to enjoy tomorrow
I can concentrate better when I work night shifts.
"Thank you" from the customer
Strengths of men and women
What I want is empathy
dream
summary

It all started because the people at the company seemed nice.

Fujisawa

As Beyond's only female engineer, we'll be asking her about a variety of things. thank you.

Mr. Nakagawa

thank you. By the way, this mask is annoying.

Fujisawa

That's what I thought too. Shall we take it?

Mr. Nakagawa

Let's take it.

Fujisawa

Ah, it's totally easy.

Mr. Nakagawa

Easy to breathe.

Fujisawa

By the way, Mr. Nakagawa, how did you become an infrastructure engineer?

Mr. Nakagawa

Well, when I went to a job hunting event at Intex Osaka during a typhoon on March 1, 2015, this was the last company I was briefed on.

Fujisawa

method. What other companies did you go to hear about?

Mr. Nakagawa

Well, I went to a lot of things. For the time being, I went without narrowing down the industry.

Fujisawa

Do you think this kind of industry is good?

Mr. Nakagawa

Not at all. So much that I was surprised.

Fujisawa

I think I'll give it a try anyway.

Mr. Nakagawa

At that time, I didn't even know that there was a job called infrastructure engineer. So instead of thinking, ``I want to be an infrastructure engineer!'', I felt like the people at the company were really nice and the atmosphere was great, so I had a strong feeling that ``I want to get a seat at Beyond.''

Fujisawa

Hey! Did you have such a good impression just from the briefing session?

Mr. Nakagawa

I didn't have any qualifications and didn't go to a great university, so I thought that no matter where I entered, the starting line would be the same, so I wanted to join a company where I would want to dedicate myself to these people and this company. It will definitely last longer if you are dyed by yourself, and for me, that suits my personality the most. The one I thought was the best was Beyond.

Fujisawa

I see. How did you answer when asked about your motivation in the interview?

Mr. Nakagawa

Something like, "During the information session, this company seemed to have the best atmosphere." Now that I think about it, I think that's a very insulting remark (lol)

Fujisawa

I guess that was a good thing!

Mr. Nakagawa

So, by chance, he was hired as an infrastructure engineer. So the means and purpose are opposite.

Fujisawa

When you joined the company, you had no knowledge of IT at all, right?

Mr. Nakagawa

It wasn't that surprising. But two of my other classmates were studying information technology at school, so I was like, oh my gosh.

Fujisawa

Was Nakagawa-san a liberal arts major?

Mr. Nakagawa

It's a liberal arts field. I didn't even know the server name.

Fujisawa

I see. How did you explain that to your parents when you were job hunting?

Mr. Nakagawa

I was like, ``Well, for now, that's it.''

Fujisawa

I have no idea (lol)

Mr. Nakagawa

I feel like I should just say it's IT related.

Fujisawa

Well, it's difficult and difficult to explain. What kind of person did you think you would be before joining the company?

Mr. Nakagawa

Don't engineers really talk to people? That's what I thought.

Fujisawa

surely. I thought engineers were people who made cars.

Mr. Nakagawa

That's right. After entering, I tried not to be rude.

Fujisawa

After I entered the office, I was simply surprised to see people chatting with the person next to them inside the company.

Synchronization is important

Fujisawa

How was your training after joining the company?

Mr. Nakagawa

In short, I felt like, ``I don't know.'' However, the other two classmates were knowledgeable, so they were able to absorb it somewhat quickly.

Fujisawa

Mr. Nakagawa was the only person in the group with no IT experience.

Mr. Nakagawa

I was disappointed (lol)

Fujisawa

It's hard to say, "I just don't know."

Mr. Nakagawa

But at least I was blessed with my peers. I think it would have been more difficult if I was alone.

Fujisawa

Wow. Synchronization is important.

Mr. Nakagawa

That's what I was told when I had a meeting with the president during my first year. ``Right now, Nakagawa-san has the least ability among the three, but I think he'll improve in the future, and I think he's a person who will never stop making efforts to improve, so if he doesn't miss out on that, I think he'll be able to surpass the two of them someday.'' ”.

Fujisawa

Oh! I'm sure that's what you thought before you joined the company.

Mr. Nakagawa

During the interview, I said that I didn't have that kind of knowledge or experience. There are times when I am asked to see the results of my work, but it was helpful because I was able to see the long-term perspective of what it means to be a person.

Fujisawa

Admittedly, I've never been rushed either.

Mr. Nakagawa

Even though I grew up slower than the people around me and wondered, ``What is a server?'', I think the fact that the president himself waited for me was a big factor.

Until inexperienced people get used to it

Fujisawa

How long did it take you to get used to the job since you first came in without knowing anything about it?

Mr. Nakagawa

Well, it will definitely take a year.

Fujisawa

That's right.

Mr. Nakagawa

Even though I received training for the first three months and OJT for the next three months, there were still many things I didn't understand. Even when I'm told to create a server, I'm like, "I don't know..." Moreover, even when we receive inquiries from customers, the server environments and other aspects of each customer vary widely, so we don't often receive the same inquiries.

Fujisawa

Even if you memorize what you were taught once, you have to do something different again.

Mr. Nakagawa

I agree. So it was helpful that the person in charge of my OJT kept records of what he had done. So I decided to leave what I had done so that anyone who does it later can do the same thing.

Fujisawa

Wow. It's important that even if you don't have someone who did OJT, you can just look at the procedure manual and understand.

Mr. Nakagawa

Sometimes when people say things like, ``I was able to do it by looking at the procedure manual that Mr. Nakagawa created!'', I just flinch. I want you to worship me even more (lol)

Fujisawa

Hehe (lol)

Mr. Nakagawa

I wish I could do something with it (lol) I'm glad I made it. I guess I started making things like that a year after I joined the company, and that's when I got used to the work. There are still things I don't understand.

Fujisawa

Is there a difference in your attitude toward work in your first, second, and third years?

Mr. Nakagawa

I agree. At the interview before I started my second year, my boss told me to keep track of what I had done, so I kept track of what I did, when I did it, to whom, and how it turned out. If you keep these items, you will have achieved 365 items in one year.

Fujisawa

method.

Mr. Nakagawa

If you fail at something once and know the cause, you will definitely not fail the next time, and if you leave it behind, you will be able to look at it once in a while and think, ``Oh, I did this before,'' and you will have a clear accumulation of work. I understand.

Fujisawa

I see! You can see it clearly.

Mr. Nakagawa

Even if there is nothing else, it is easy to understand that I have done so much at this time. I made an effort to evaluate myself before being evaluated by others. If there's something I don't understand, I try to ask it myself, and I'm keenly aware that being passive is no good.

Fujisawa

Did you become acutely aware of this as you worked?

Mr. Nakagawa

While shedding tears.

Fujisawa

That I was trained.

Mr. Nakagawa

yes.

Fujisawa

Do you feel like you're putting those well-trained arms to the fullest now?

Mr. Nakagawa

What do you think? After two years have passed, I have come to see things from different perspectives, such as the meaning of the book I read in my first year.

Fujisawa

Hey! It reminds me of a book I read before.

Mr. Nakagawa

I remember that. Thanks to the experience gained, I now understand things I didn't know before, so I think working in a technical position like an engineer means learning every day.

Fujisawa

Skills can be learned later, so in the end personality is what matters.

Mr. Nakagawa

Isn't that so? No matter how much knowledge or skill you have, you have to make people want to work with this person. The required skills are something you can acquire after joining the company.

For me to enjoy tomorrow

Mr. Nakagawa

When I say study in one word, I don't know what to do, but for example, I need to learn basic things such as creating a server in a test environment, how the server works, and the types of servers. I'm doing it. For example, studying for the Linux LPIC qualification.

Fujisawa

Do you do that after you get home after work?

Mr. Nakagawa

I agree. Studying may sound formal, but I think it's fun to learn things I've never seen or heard before.

Fujisawa

This is an idea that I don't have... Were you more proactive about studying when you had to learn from scratch?

Mr. Nakagawa

Well...

Fujisawa

so?

Mr. Nakagawa

In parallel with my graduation thesis, I was reading books on Linux basics, but I didn't understand what they meant. There was a word I didn't understand, and when I looked it up, there was another word I didn't understand, like Matryoshka.

Fujisawa

No matter how hard I try, I can't seem to make any progress...

Mr. Nakagawa

But the moment I turned 0 into 1, the next thing would be 3 or 4 instead of 2, so I felt like it was fun to be able to understand something even if I didn't understand it.

Fujisawa

Hey! What is this word even now? ? Is there something like that?

Mr. Nakagawa

there is. I was like, "What are you talking about!?" It's no good if you don't understand how to operate a customer's server, and you have no choice but to fill in the gaps yourself, so I'm studying so that I can have fun tomorrow. Somehow I feel like that's interesting.

I can concentrate better when I work night shifts.

Fujisawa

When did you start working night shifts?

Mr. Nakagawa

October of the first year. I started joining with other people around June, and from October I was alone.

Fujisawa

It's relatively fast. Was it scary at first?

Mr. Nakagawa

It was really scary. But my parents were nurses, so I didn't feel weird about working night shifts. It's not like there will be any ghosts.

Fujisawa

Certainly (lol)

Mr. Nakagawa

I had heard at the company information session that there was a night shift, so I had no objections. And I have to do what I have to do. I don't feel sleepy and can concentrate better at night.

Fujisawa

I see. What kind of work do you do when you work night shifts other than responding to alerts?

Mr. Nakagawa

I might be dealing with inquiries left over at the time of handover, or any other tasks I might be assigned. Recently, it has been something like creating a manual.

"Thank you" from the customer

Mr. Nakagawa

Even if things are a little tough, when customers say ``Thank you'' to their daily inquiries, even in a business-like manner, all those feelings go away.

Fujisawa

That's a good thing.

Mr. Nakagawa

I think it's great to hear a direct thank you from the customer, which gives me a sense of accomplishment and makes me feel glad that I did it.

Fujisawa

Which kind of communication is more common, phone or chat?

Mr. Nakagawa

It's a chat. I only make phone calls when there is an emergency. The phone is no longer twitchy compared to when I first started.

Fujisawa

Were you afraid of phone calls at first?

Mr. Nakagawa

It's so scary. Unfortunately, it took me more than three months to remember the names of people in the company. I was like, “Oh my god, who is this?” There were times when I didn't even know who had just taken a break.

Fujisawa

At first, you might think, "What team did this person play on?" In your second year, have you been able to do work that makes use of your experience?

Mr. Nakagawa

I agree. My expectations and responsibility for what I would be able to do after a year had grown.

Fujisawa

Is that more rewarding?

Mr. Nakagawa

I agree. I have a sense of responsibility.

Strengths of men and women

Fujisawa

Are there any differences between men and women when it comes to work?

Mr. Nakagawa

I think there are some areas where the differences between men and women cannot be bridged.

Fujisawa

Like speed?

Mr. Nakagawa

ability or durability.

Fujisawa

Ah~. When you say durability, do you mean how long you can continue working?

Mr. Nakagawa

Men have more physical strength.

Fujisawa

Well, that's true. But for some reason, even when I watch from the sidelines, I don't get the feeling that Ms. Nakagawa is the only woman on the team.

Mr. Nakagawa

What does it mean! ?

Fujisawa

I never really thought that being the only woman would be a problem. She's working normally. It looks like it.

Mr. Nakagawa

It looks like it.

Fujisawa

I don't know what's inside though.

Mr. Nakagawa

Compared to last year, that is no longer the case.

Fujisawa

I joined the company in November of last year, and at that time I had the impression that Mr. Nakagawa was entrusted with so much work that I couldn't believe he was only in his second year.

Mr. Nakagawa

I'm a happy person to have someone who sees me that way.

Fujisawa

Do you have any strengths that are unique to women?

Mr. Nakagawa

Is it about paying attention to the details? I don't really like routine work, but by doing little things, I'm able to be entrusted with work.

Fujisawa

There are some things that only women notice. Are there any characteristics that would be good for a woman to become an infrastructure engineer?

Mr. Nakagawa

In the book I read yesterday, it was ``a person who is precise''. People who know that operating something that is normal in operation means that it is natural, and who understand the mechanism of how it leads to the result. It also says that texting is not allowed, but I wonder if that's the case.

Fujisawa

Does that mean it's not suitable for rough people?

Mr. Nakagawa

Although I say it's accurate, I think it varies depending on the situation. When dealing with alerts, the way you respond will vary depending on the situation, and even if you follow the manual, things may not actually work out, so I think you have to look at things and act differently. I don't think there is a general idea that this type of person is suitable for each job, as different abilities are required and a flexible way of thinking is required.

Fujisawa

law. It means that you are the person you can think of at that time.

What I want is empathy

Fujisawa

Did you have any problems because you were the only woman on the team?

Mr. Nakagawa

I feel relieved when I have casual conversations with women from other departments and when they empathize with me even when it comes to small things, so sometimes that's not possible within a team. I don't need an answer, I just want you to empathize with me.

Fujisawa

surely. I will solve my problems by myself.

Mr. Nakagawa

Yeah, I don't want to hear the truth.

Fujisawa

I understand.

Mr. Nakagawa

Very understanding.

Fujisawa

So, would you be happy if there was a woman on your team?

Mr. Nakagawa

Is it okay to go either way? I'd be happy if you liked Kamen Rider.

Fujisawa

A Kamen Rider girl? (lol) In the first place, there aren't many women who want to become infrastructure engineers.

Mr. Nakagawa

Is it too expensive? You could become someone like me who just asked, "What is an infrastructure engineer?"

Fujisawa

I can't even do a blind touch.

Mr. Nakagawa

Me too. Even if you can't do it, you can still do your job.

dream

Fujisawa

Lastly, Mr. Nakagawa, please tell us about your dreams.

Mr. Nakagawa

My first goal is to become a person who can be helpful to the team. I want to be close to that position. Do you dream of being a troubleshooter? I think being a troubleshooter is the best fit for me because I am motivated by the gratitude of my customers. I will spare no effort to get closer to that. I have no choice but to build up my confidence myself.

Fujisawa

surely. There are things that you can get help from others and things that only you can do.

Mr. Nakagawa

I want to be recognized by my boss, but I also don't want him to get mad at me.

Fujisawa

Is it difficult to understand customer requests?

Mr. Nakagawa

yes. You have to dig deeper and ask, ``Is this what you want to do?'' There are many things you have to think about on your own. So we always need sugar.

Fujisawa

I eat chocolate during breaks.

Mr. Nakagawa

It's more about ingestion than eating.

Fujisawa

It's like drinking nectar from a flower.

Mr. Nakagawa

But I don't feel like I'm working as an infrastructure engineer; I feel like I'm no different from a normal office worker. To be honest, I don't even consider myself an infrastructure engineer.

Fujisawa

What is an infrastructure engineer?

Mr. Nakagawa

Hmm. It feels like someone who is creating the foundation so that the service can be used. Because we are making things that are commonplace, there is no glamor. I prefer that though.

Fujisawa

So it's a behind-the-scenes job.

Mr. Nakagawa

Yes, I think it's suitable for people who want to do it diligently. I think it's better to continue working if you feel that this company is good than what you want to do in IT It is better to have a good motivation for joining the company.

Fujisawa

Certainly, if I had chosen the company that way, I would want to be able to do work that I am not good at. Thank you for speaking on behalf of Beyond's female infrastructure engineers this time! !

summary

Currently, the population of female engineers is small, but as long as you have the desire to work at this company, it doesn't matter whether you have no experience or whether there are few women.

It's true that you may feel anxious about working night shifts or that your marriage will be delayed, but more than that, your strong desire to work here will be the driving force that will support you.

Even if you fail, you can try again, so I want to keep in mind that ``I can do anything, I can become anything.'' I want to do what only I can do, take advantage of my strengths, and reflect that in my work. .

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About the author

Fujisawa Umi

Joined Beyond mid-career in November 2017.
He jumped into the IT industry with no experience from behind the scenes in the comedy industry.
He is in charge of public relations, recruitment, and marketing, and is also addicted to making YouTube videos.
He is an AWS practitioner and he has managed to obtain the AZ-900 (Azure) certification.
He likes PreCure and muscle training.

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table of contents

It all started because the people at the company seemed nice.

Synchronization is important

Until inexperienced people get used to it

For me to enjoy tomorrow

I can concentrate better when I work night shifts.

"Thank you" from the customer

Strengths of men and women

What I want is empathy

dream

summary

The person who wrote this article

Fujisawa Umi

[How female engineers work] You can become a female engineer even if you have no experience!

table of contents

It all started because the people at the company seemed nice.

Synchronization is important

Until inexperienced people get used to it

For me to enjoy tomorrow

I can concentrate better when I work night shifts.

"Thank you" from the customer

Strengths of men and women

What I want is empathy

dream

summary

The person who wrote this article

Fujisawa Umi

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